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. >> i would argue and i think steve will also argue it is not just technicals but also fundamentals. earnings are slowing. >> this is a key. if you look at multiple compressions this doesn't hold for all stocks. if you show me a company where the top line is slowing. that doesn't hold all the time. for a stock like this it is widely held and most likely going to happen that way. >> that chart is something. if somebody put that chart in front of you and didn't tell you what it was you would not be buying it. you could say that rally is something to be sold. put a chart in front when you don't know what it is. apple has a great name but when you look at the chart it is a different story. >> he is making the comparison to microsoft as well as google. on microsoft the price to earnings decline has been on decline since the tech bubble. microsoft has not seen that resurgence even though the base is very large. on google the share of search has been steady a mid 60% or so. and as this has peaked so has the p.e. sounds familiar. >> and i have said it before. when products become ubiquitous,
. >> i would argue and i think steve will also argue it is not just technicals but also fundamentals. earnings are slowing. >> this is a key. if you look at multiple compressions this doesn't hold for all stocks. if you show me a company where the top line is slowing. that doesn't hold all the time. for a stock like this it is widely held and most likely going to happen that way. >> that chart is something. if somebody put that chart in front of you and didn't tell you what it...
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. >> steve weiss, does the data change? you have a guy who has been bullish, did defending the market every move lower. it's come back and he's defend ed it. >> i departmeidn't see the markg much between now and then. if you're really squoeoverweigh equities, you're playing for one thing, for a resolution, the fiscal cliff that you can live with. we've had china come, the chinese markets are down. our markets are not believing that. europe continues to worsen so there are lots of issues out there, lots of reasons to be negle negative plus corporate earnings. i remain cautious. >> the former chief economist and vice president biden, tony worked in the bush 43 white house, both cnbc contributors. good to see you both today. is the white house going to accept anything but tax rates going up? >> well, they've never completely closed the door on that. >> it's like maybe just a crack, and i mean it's a small crack. >> yeah, and it's a very small crack and it might even be closing. they are very much about the high higher rates. t
. >> steve weiss, does the data change? you have a guy who has been bullish, did defending the market every move lower. it's come back and he's defend ed it. >> i departmeidn't see the markg much between now and then. if you're really squoeoverweigh equities, you're playing for one thing, for a resolution, the fiscal cliff that you can live with. we've had china come, the chinese markets are down. our markets are not believing that. europe continues to worsen so there are lots of...
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today as steve will be, what would your first question to him be? >> my questions would be about dividends and capital gains as they're market related. with the dividends we've seen a tremendous amount of companies bring them forward in the name of tax avoidance. in both france and england we've seen a tremendous amount of steps taken for tax avoidance when they hire -- >> people leave. >> my only question, there have been studies done on that in the united states to figure out what the effect would be. my second question would be, back in '08 when the president was debating hillary clinton accepted the concept that every time we've raised capital gains tax, the receipts from that have gone down. every time we've lowered it, they've gone up. he accepted that. i want to know if his opinion is modified or is he considering laying off tax and business investment for fear that it will give us less of it. >> two very interesting questions there about what effect a change in taxes does to behavior. i think you can't deny the fact that it does change behav
today as steve will be, what would your first question to him be? >> my questions would be about dividends and capital gains as they're market related. with the dividends we've seen a tremendous amount of companies bring them forward in the name of tax avoidance. in both france and england we've seen a tremendous amount of steps taken for tax avoidance when they hire -- >> people leave. >> my only question, there have been studies done on that in the united states to figure...
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conversation with our steve liesman. in corporate news, the apple coming off its worst day ofs losses this almost four years. u.s. equity futures, though, not too bad so far today. indicated up about 15 points. today is thursday, december 6th, penultimate day before the day of infamy. "squawk box" begins right now. >> welcome to "squawk box." i'm becky quick along with joe kernen. andrew ross sorkin is on vacation this week. onset with us is drew mattis. welcome. thanks for getting up early. >> i'm always up at this time. >> we'll be going through secretary geithner's comments, but first let's get you up to speed on other stories. joe was talking about apple. it has been a rough ten weeks for the most valuable u.s. company. shares tumbling more than 6% yesterday shedding $35 billion of market value. among the reasons cited by analysts, a forecast by an influential research firm suggesting that the iphone and ipad maker is continuing to give up ground it rival the android gadgets. there were also unconfirmed reports that
conversation with our steve liesman. in corporate news, the apple coming off its worst day ofs losses this almost four years. u.s. equity futures, though, not too bad so far today. indicated up about 15 points. today is thursday, december 6th, penultimate day before the day of infamy. "squawk box" begins right now. >> welcome to "squawk box." i'm becky quick along with joe kernen. andrew ross sorkin is on vacation this week. onset with us is drew mattis. welcome....
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thanks for having me. >> steve yankovi ch for ebay. going over the fiscal cliff could cause major problems for state economies. which face the biggest threat from the potential tax hikes? joining us on the phone is laura porter, managing director at the public finance department, sector head for the state ratings group which focuses on state credits across the country. and focuses on a report, laura, looking granularly at this. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> in general, you argue that a lot of ratings on the state front will remain unchanged no matter what. why is that? >> we feel states are fundamentally very strong credits, have strong control over their revenues and spending and the vast majority have shown the ability and willingness to adjust. so we think that the biggest and immediate threat is the fiscal cliff and what that can mean for state revenues, which quickly react to changing economy. >> you make the point -- surprise to no one, you have an unusually high degree of uncertainty in this outlook and
thanks for having me. >> steve yankovi ch for ebay. going over the fiscal cliff could cause major problems for state economies. which face the biggest threat from the potential tax hikes? joining us on the phone is laura porter, managing director at the public finance department, sector head for the state ratings group which focuses on state credits across the country. and focuses on a report, laura, looking granularly at this. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me....
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i mean, where are you on this, rick -- or, i'm sorry, steve? >> interesting. >> i'm just -- no, that i called you rick? no, because of rick perry. but i think that's what you're alluding to. >> yeah. >> was it that one that you wanted to get rid of the department of education? >> the role -- >> i like the idea of giving it down to the states. >> the idea that a department of education in washington, d.c., should be making decisions for each of the states is just ludicrous, you know, from a constitutional standpoint, it just is not functional. >> when was it is, 1980? i mean, it's a relatively recent addition that has swallowed up democracy. >> the money that comes and creates more bureaucracy and then they try to dictate to the states, here, race to the top's a good example of it. we tell them, you know, with all due respect, we don't want to participate in race to the top. because we asked them, well, can we take a look at the national standards that you want to put in place and can we see the tests? well, those aren't done yet. not unlike the
i mean, where are you on this, rick -- or, i'm sorry, steve? >> interesting. >> i'm just -- no, that i called you rick? no, because of rick perry. but i think that's what you're alluding to. >> yeah. >> was it that one that you wanted to get rid of the department of education? >> the role -- >> i like the idea of giving it down to the states. >> the idea that a department of education in washington, d.c., should be making decisions for each of the...
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back to you, maria. >> steve, thank you so much. steve liesman with the secretary of treasury. let's get reaction to that exclusive interview. that's coming up after that short break. on deck, senator jeff sessions is with me, a ranking member of the senate budget committee. richard shelby is also with me. and maya mcguinness. this busy edition "the closing bell" is just getting started. we're back in a minute. they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> welcome back. you just heard from timothy geithner. did the exclusive interview you just saw move the needle in terms of the fiscal cliff being any clo
back to you, maria. >> steve, thank you so much. steve liesman with the secretary of treasury. let's get reaction to that exclusive interview. that's coming up after that short break. on deck, senator jeff sessions is with me, a ranking member of the senate budget committee. richard shelby is also with me. and maya mcguinness. this busy edition "the closing bell" is just getting started. we're back in a minute. they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations...
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even steve jobs used to eat there." and mona's sort of taken aback and bites her tongue and doesn't say, "steve jobs is your son." but she looks shocked, and he says, "yeah, he was a great tipper." >> and i was in that restaurant once or twice, and i remember meeting the owner, who was from syria, and it was most certainly him, and i shook his hand, and he shook my hand, and that's all. >> and jobs never spoke to him, never talked to him, never got in touch with him, never wanted to see him. [ticking] >> coming up, steve jobs delays cancer surgery. >> how could such a smart man do such a stupid thing? >> you know, i think that he kind of felt that if you ignore something, if you don't want something to exist, you can have magical thinking, and it had worked for him in the past. >> more steve jobs when 60 minutes on cnbc returns. lots of prepaid cards come pre-filled with problems. enough is enough. introducing the chase liquid reloadable card. with chase liquid, there's no waiting and no fee to activate you can load cas
even steve jobs used to eat there." and mona's sort of taken aback and bites her tongue and doesn't say, "steve jobs is your son." but she looks shocked, and he says, "yeah, he was a great tipper." >> and i was in that restaurant once or twice, and i remember meeting the owner, who was from syria, and it was most certainly him, and i shook his hand, and he shook my hand, and that's all. >> and jobs never spoke to him, never talked to him, never got in touch...
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. >> it's snot just steve though. it's the talent steve attracted and whether or not thatt atalen is leaving or if it's still there. what are you shaking your head about? >> i think johnny ive is certainly as much of a talent magnet as steve jobs. this person has an aura about him. i think a lot of people at apple and surrounding apple are very exciting when tim cook did a good job of selecting johnny ive instead of scott forestall. you hear reports of people applauding that johnny is the man now. he's going to run the design over there. it's big news. >> all right. we'll leave it there. >> scott wasn't so popular either, which was part of the reason for the applause. >> guys, thanks. appreciate it. catch the full interview with apple ceo tim cook tonight 10:00 p.m. eastern on nbc's "rock center." >> looking forward to that. >>> as we head toward the close with about 40 minutes left on the trading session, losing altitude here. >> how about zynga? the company known for its farmville game, of course. the company is now
. >> it's snot just steve though. it's the talent steve attracted and whether or not thatt atalen is leaving or if it's still there. what are you shaking your head about? >> i think johnny ive is certainly as much of a talent magnet as steve jobs. this person has an aura about him. i think a lot of people at apple and surrounding apple are very exciting when tim cook did a good job of selecting johnny ive instead of scott forestall. you hear reports of people applauding that johnny...
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steve jobs, this is the first year next year where we're really in the post-steve jobs era. we have the margin mix, slowing growth. you would expect multiple compression on that, but don't forget they come out with a big product our big number, psychology can change in a minute. >> if you take a look at the sector they play, they're selling at a significant premium so the com uponants of their business, whether it's smartphones or whether it's pcs. granted they're macs, not p.m. cs, but they're selling down six, seven times. >> totally fair, but i mean, look at dell and look at hp versus apple. every single business apple has is growing very nicely. they have a wonderful new phone out there, the smartphone market has tremendous growth. >> i agreed. i just think you have time. for the first time we're seeing the steve jobs premium as you mentioned come out of the stock and wonder what's next on the product cycle. >> if you say you have time, you've got time. >> well, thank you. >> how diplomatic. henry, good to talk with you as always. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for h
steve jobs, this is the first year next year where we're really in the post-steve jobs era. we have the margin mix, slowing growth. you would expect multiple compression on that, but don't forget they come out with a big product our big number, psychology can change in a minute. >> if you take a look at the sector they play, they're selling at a significant premium so the com uponants of their business, whether it's smartphones or whether it's pcs. granted they're macs, not p.m. cs, but...
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steve, is it really as bad as all of that? we're talking about some very anemic numbers. >> the question is, what part is bad? i really disagree with this report in the sense that i don't see how he can possibly know what the growth rate is going to be in 2050. i don't think he knows what the growth rate is going to be next year let alone in 2050. the second thing wrong with this prediction is growth rates are something that are within control of a society or nation. with the policies -- now, i think he's right we're aiming right now for a growth rate that may be unattainable. long-term, a society cannot exactly choose but can adjust this level of growth. third, some of the things that he's most concerned about, for example, global competition, are some of the things that make me optimistic about the future, not pessimistic. >> but lindsay, part of his reasoning is we're adding too much debt to the equation. debt servicing takes up more of our growth at this point. too many band-aids solving problems that need surgery, not sor
steve, is it really as bad as all of that? we're talking about some very anemic numbers. >> the question is, what part is bad? i really disagree with this report in the sense that i don't see how he can possibly know what the growth rate is going to be in 2050. i don't think he knows what the growth rate is going to be next year let alone in 2050. the second thing wrong with this prediction is growth rates are something that are within control of a society or nation. with the policies --...
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i don't think it's over and we do think it will rebound next year. >> steve, good to have you on the show, appreciate it so much. >> thank you. >> steve milunovich from ubs. >> you made a good point before we came on air and what it was i thought about is that we're seeing some notable hedge funds suffer big withdrawals at the end of the year. apple was a key holding for the hedge funds, they're liquidating the decisions and expectations of redemption. if that's the case you want to buy apple. >> there are a million different reasons flying around the street, whether it's a technical sell-off we're seeing, the margin requirement story that we talked yesterday about, any validity to any of that, or is it simply this is a stock that has dominated the action over the course of a year, and people are just taking profits where profits are to be taken. >> i think again a lot of the participation in the stock is short term thinking which is problematic and we'll expand upon that at a later point. again, we talk about the fundamentals of this company and i just don't get it. i know dennis yo
i don't think it's over and we do think it will rebound next year. >> steve, good to have you on the show, appreciate it so much. >> thank you. >> steve milunovich from ubs. >> you made a good point before we came on air and what it was i thought about is that we're seeing some notable hedge funds suffer big withdrawals at the end of the year. apple was a key holding for the hedge funds, they're liquidating the decisions and expectations of redemption. if that's the case...
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let's go to steve grasso. a remarkable run for the stock. i've asked the question on more than one occasion, whether it's style or substance that's behind the move. >> if you look at it, this is a technical call there. there is the appearance of a triple top. you have to look at 20102010, 2. 1915ish. if we can cross over that, you're looking at the same thing. >> are you worried that once the halo, so to speak, that the street has given melissa myer the benefit of the doubt. once reality has set in that her job is big that the stock is going to fade? >> i don't know what reality is going to set in. they've been able to monetize alibaba. there's still money there. they're cash plentiful at this point. there were rumors about maybe a special differ but i think they'll probably ratchet up their corporate repurchase. so all those things are positive and i think it's all of it enough to get it back in the mid 20s. >> i'm going to let you run. but what about this mcdonald's debate? do you want to chime in on it. >> i love the mcrib likemy brother
let's go to steve grasso. a remarkable run for the stock. i've asked the question on more than one occasion, whether it's style or substance that's behind the move. >> if you look at it, this is a technical call there. there is the appearance of a triple top. you have to look at 20102010, 2. 1915ish. if we can cross over that, you're looking at the same thing. >> are you worried that once the halo, so to speak, that the street has given melissa myer the benefit of the doubt. once...
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>>> plus, former aol ceo steve case joins us. he'll outline his big plans to get america back to work and how to keep america great when it comes to innovation. all ahead on "power lunch." tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 this morning, i'm going to trade in hong kong. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 then tonight, i'm trading 9500 miles away in japan. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with the new global account from schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i hunt down...
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apple tv living in the legacy of steve jobs. we're going to take a very close look on what is next for america's favorite gadgetmaker. >>> speaking of gadgets, rivalry research in motion, offering training programs and promotions for its upcoming blackberry 10. it's targeted corporations. bold move or maybe a desperate one? >>> any move might be welcome down here. democrats want tax hikes on the rich. republicans want entitlement cuts. we've heard this before, haven't we? what do average americans want to see in a fiscal cliff solution. we've got the exclusive results of our exclusive cnbc all-america economic survey. >>> now to everybody's all-american, sue herera standing by at the nyse. >> you're sweet, ty. thanks. >>> we're a little bit on the downside. we really kind of retraced a little bit on the dow jones industrial average. previous to this we were solidly in the green in all three of the major market indices. the dow now down 14 1/2 points. nasdaq up eight. the s&p is down just a fraction. of course we are also watchin
apple tv living in the legacy of steve jobs. we're going to take a very close look on what is next for america's favorite gadgetmaker. >>> speaking of gadgets, rivalry research in motion, offering training programs and promotions for its upcoming blackberry 10. it's targeted corporations. bold move or maybe a desperate one? >>> any move might be welcome down here. democrats want tax hikes on the rich. republicans want entitlement cuts. we've heard this before, haven't we? what...
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thank you so much, steve liesman. we have breaking news on the fiscal cliff negotiations. john harwood with the details. over to you, john. >> maria, just wanted to bring you up to date on a development, which is the resumption of some staff level discussions between the congress, the speaker's office in particular, and the white house. we've been through a period where both sides, the principa s principals, the speaker and president have been striking tough lines in public, having made some initial moves towards cooperation, but word followed up no more meetings scheduled between the principals. wasn't that much going on staff to staff. that's changed today from yesterday. to you have some discussions resumed. i don't want to overplay the significance, but it is an encouraging sign for people who think that the ice had been beginning to crack around some of the positions, especially with the republicans on taxes. we may be looking for some forward movement. got to watch over the next day or so. >> this is good news, john. >> it is good news. it is an indication that we ma
thank you so much, steve liesman. we have breaking news on the fiscal cliff negotiations. john harwood with the details. over to you, john. >> maria, just wanted to bring you up to date on a development, which is the resumption of some staff level discussions between the congress, the speaker's office in particular, and the white house. we've been through a period where both sides, the principa s principals, the speaker and president have been striking tough lines in public, having made...
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>> obviously, you know steve rather well. how would steve jobs feel about the current environment as it is right now at apple? >> well, again, i'm not inside of apple. i'm outside of apple looking at it. >> but you knew the way he thought about the world, and -- >> sure. steve jobs lived in a world of black and white. no compromises, perfectionist, he believed that you had to keep pushing the edges of innovation. and apple is still doing that. what apple is doing right now is it's building out the follow-on evolution very successful products like the ipad. now we have the ipad mini. so i think apple has got a few years of being able to do that. at some point, it's got to do something beyond that. >> john, there have been some notable stumbles in apple's past and in the recent past they have been able to surmount them and push them aside. what do you think is the biggest risk, whether product risk or execution risk in china, et cetera. if it you're long apple, what is the one thing that maybe makes you somewhat cautious going
>> obviously, you know steve rather well. how would steve jobs feel about the current environment as it is right now at apple? >> well, again, i'm not inside of apple. i'm outside of apple looking at it. >> but you knew the way he thought about the world, and -- >> sure. steve jobs lived in a world of black and white. no compromises, perfectionist, he believed that you had to keep pushing the edges of innovation. and apple is still doing that. what apple is doing right...
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craig, when does steve balmer have to go? >> i'm going to stay away from that question, brian, but, you know, microsoft does have the added challenge of it doesn't want to compete too aggressively with the hardware vendors that it's competing against in own customers in the tablet market to some degree. so it can't get real cheap, or it's going to make guys like lenovo very upset. >> craig, thank you very much for joining us. thank you for playing along in the beginning. thanks for keeping it clean. >> you got it. >> next up, we're going to give you the story behind the video of the day. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. test. test. test. test. or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happen
craig, when does steve balmer have to go? >> i'm going to stay away from that question, brian, but, you know, microsoft does have the added challenge of it doesn't want to compete too aggressively with the hardware vendors that it's competing against in own customers in the tablet market to some degree. so it can't get real cheap, or it's going to make guys like lenovo very upset. >> craig, thank you very much for joining us. thank you for playing along in the beginning. thanks for...
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. >> i hear what steve just said. but given the jobs report, we've also seen a drop in gasoline prices. when you get the -- when you remember the prices fell by gasoline. your decline in prices. that's a big increase in consumer spending and probably income last month. so i think consumers can replenish savings just a little bit and still have spending. you also have at the upper end $20 billion and growing of dividends declared this month. to beat the tax hike. that's $20 billion of cash flow that higher income individuals, not all of them but many of them will get. and much of that will end up being spent. >> you acknowledge that university in michigan consumer sentiment, that was big decline. and much of that is attributable to fears about the fiscal cliff. all bets could be off the table if we go off the fiscal cliff. >> sure if you go over the cliff. and you'll still have some tax hikes. we have consumer spending around 2% in real terms in line with income. we don't think the whole tax hikes will go into effect e
. >> i hear what steve just said. but given the jobs report, we've also seen a drop in gasoline prices. when you get the -- when you remember the prices fell by gasoline. your decline in prices. that's a big increase in consumer spending and probably income last month. so i think consumers can replenish savings just a little bit and still have spending. you also have at the upper end $20 billion and growing of dividends declared this month. to beat the tax hike. that's $20 billion of cash...
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i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and steve liesman. the november jobs report is now just about 150 minutes away. count do countdown is on. the economy probably added about 80,000 jobs last month. reuters consensus is a little higher at 93,000. the unemployment rate expected to hold steady at 7.9% and economists say the slow down in nonfarm payrolls will reflect the effect of sandy. joining us this hour is bank of america merrill lynch global research senior research economist michelle mire and we'll talk through everything that's been happening through jobs and what to expect. but first, there is a developing story. an earthquake off the northeast coast of japan triggered a tsunami warning. the warning has been lifted, but it was a 7.3 quake. so far no reports of any injuries or damage. it was for the same area devastated by an earthquake and tsunami back in march of last year. we will continue to bring you any developments. in the meantime, steve has some of the morning's top other stories. >> let's start with the markets. asian stock
i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and steve liesman. the november jobs report is now just about 150 minutes away. count do countdown is on. the economy probably added about 80,000 jobs last month. reuters consensus is a little higher at 93,000. the unemployment rate expected to hold steady at 7.9% and economists say the slow down in nonfarm payrolls will reflect the effect of sandy. joining us this hour is bank of america merrill lynch global research senior research economist michelle mire...
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. >> and then larry, later in the afternoon, our steve leishman sat down with treasury secretary tim geithner. geithner in that interview late in the afternoon made it clear that this is brinksmanship of the highest order. >> i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. it's only 2%. >> reporter: of course, up on capitol hill, republicans don't necessarily agree with that. speaker of the house john boehner said today that he is still waiting for a counterproposal now from the president of the united states. and we learned late this afternoon that in fact speaker boehner and president obama had a phone call today. we don't know, however, what was said in that call. but reports are that some progress is being made in these negotiations. at least conversations continuing behind the
. >> and then larry, later in the afternoon, our steve leishman sat down with treasury secretary tim geithner. geithner in that interview late in the afternoon made it clear that this is brinksmanship of the highest order. >> i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's...
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steve, thanks so much for your time. steve fox, marijuana policy project in washington. >> house speaker john boehner is to speak on the fiscal cliff negotiations in just a few minutes. we'll bring you those comments live as soon as he starts speaking. plus, former ohio governor ted strickland will join us. he says republicans are not acting in the best interest of the country when it comes to the fiscal cliff and explain exactly why he's saying that on cnbc. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. it's just common sense. i have obligations. cute toblig
steve, thanks so much for your time. steve fox, marijuana policy project in washington. >> house speaker john boehner is to speak on the fiscal cliff negotiations in just a few minutes. we'll bring you those comments live as soon as he starts speaking. plus, former ohio governor ted strickland will join us. he says republicans are not acting in the best interest of the country when it comes to the fiscal cliff and explain exactly why he's saying that on cnbc. [ male announcer ] this is...
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. >> i knew that was true when steve weiss said he was buying the fxis. >> i was smiling. >> manufacturing is clearly retrenched with the concerns surrounding the fiscal cliff. we see that, all the numbers, you have to believe a little certainty. manufacturing comes back. the material space, which is so tied to the chinese growth. i think that's in particular a sector you could look at. i think you could even, and i'm warming up to something that i haven't liked all year, but you could even look at the steel space and some of those names in there, and i think that would be a focus area. >> we're going to talk about apple certainly in more unstance a little bit later. but if you like technology, right, are you going to buy the nasdaq 100 or are you going to buy individual names? because i'm just wondering if apple doesn't participate the way you might hope it would or think it could in 2013 does that hold back technology as a secretary e? do you need to look for individual names? >> i just think you have to have a critical theme around it. i think there's two themes. one, smart fund growth,
. >> i knew that was true when steve weiss said he was buying the fxis. >> i was smiling. >> manufacturing is clearly retrenched with the concerns surrounding the fiscal cliff. we see that, all the numbers, you have to believe a little certainty. manufacturing comes back. the material space, which is so tied to the chinese growth. i think that's in particular a sector you could look at. i think you could even, and i'm warming up to something that i haven't liked all year, but...
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welcome its president and ceo, steve joyce. there aren't many hotels being built in america at this moment. that's one reason why people think they'll be able to raise prices next year. what you're doing is very unusual, why? >> we have got a new brand, choice is for the first time breaking into the upscale space, there are a number of deals we were working. we agreed to co-invest with them, we got the deals done and we're here breaking in the first 24 hours, breaking ground in arguably the city with the most hotels. >> you have had to step in and help finance and own the hotels for once in order to get movement there. why was it the priority on that? >> well, one because of financial condition and the financial circumstances for raising money for hotels has been tough for several years. two, we're trying to launch this brand. three we're working with partners and most of our position is a sliver equity or a sliver debt position. they're going to take us out of it and we'll recycle that into great hotels. it's a great opportuni
welcome its president and ceo, steve joyce. there aren't many hotels being built in america at this moment. that's one reason why people think they'll be able to raise prices next year. what you're doing is very unusual, why? >> we have got a new brand, choice is for the first time breaking into the upscale space, there are a number of deals we were working. we agreed to co-invest with them, we got the deals done and we're here breaking in the first 24 hours, breaking ground in arguably...
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steve, good morning. >> good morning, becky. thanks. the stronger than expected jobs were not making believers of many economists. they continue to expect weak fourth quarter growth after that number came in at 146,000 with an expectation of around 85,000. fourth quarter growth estimates range from a low of below a half a point, 0.4%. that coming from morgan stanley. the high from what i could gather this morning, 1.5% at jpmorgan. remember that third quarter growth was 2.7 pfrs. a lot of this, though, is going to be inventories. suggesting the growth back drop a little bit stronger than what the number might imply. but the declining unemployment rate fell 0.2 to 7.7% complicates the job for the fed which is expected to place operation twist, where it sells short-term securities and buys long-term ones, with just outright asset purchases on the long end. here's the fed forecast for the fourth quarter. notice the actual there, at 7.7%. it's now at -- the forecast for the end of this year,.1%. it's now averaging you can see there on the l
steve, good morning. >> good morning, becky. thanks. the stronger than expected jobs were not making believers of many economists. they continue to expect weak fourth quarter growth after that number came in at 146,000 with an expectation of around 85,000. fourth quarter growth estimates range from a low of below a half a point, 0.4%. that coming from morgan stanley. the high from what i could gather this morning, 1.5% at jpmorgan. remember that third quarter growth was 2.7 pfrs. a lot of...
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is that the same as product genius and marketing genius that steve jobs had? we'll have to evaluate that over the next year. he has taken apple to be the largest listed market capitalization company on any u.s. exchange. now we'll see what he can do over the next 12 months or 14 months to find new markets and to continue growth. >> all right. colin, thank you for phoning in. >> euro retreating from a seven-week high against the dollar on poor demand for spanish bond auction today and indeed it must be said weaker than eurozone retail sales figures. andy, welcome. where does the euro go from here? >> hi, simon. there's a couple things that make me worried about the euro today. we made a higher high and are making a lower close. as we get into this week, we have only one more week before things turn over as far as risk goes in the financial markets. i'm worried about the fiscal cliff, yes. negotiations look ugly. also i'm worried about u.s. stocks once they start to go ex-dividend and costco and disney on december 10th will be poster children for what happens to
is that the same as product genius and marketing genius that steve jobs had? we'll have to evaluate that over the next year. he has taken apple to be the largest listed market capitalization company on any u.s. exchange. now we'll see what he can do over the next 12 months or 14 months to find new markets and to continue growth. >> all right. colin, thank you for phoning in. >> euro retreating from a seven-week high against the dollar on poor demand for spanish bond auction today...